Commuters spend 91 days in jams on average

  • AnthonyS's Avatar
    According to a report from Kia Motors, the average British commuter will spend 91 days in stationary traffic jams.

    What do you think of this figure? Has your journey to work got worse?

    Please click on the link below to read the full story and then tell us your thoughts:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...commuters.html
  • 11 Replies

  • Trainman's Avatar
    I remember a few years ago when the M6/M62 jnt was being altered. Prior to the alterations there was always hold ups in the morning rush hours. Then the work started and I thought that it would get worse. They put a 50mph limit on through the works with specs cameras. The whole thing moved along without the stop start that it had been before and there was less lanes. Then the limit went back to 70mph (read on some speedos of some drivers as 90+) and it is now back to gridlock. The other great transport con is Bus lanes which take up valuable road space and cycle lanes. We have many dual carriageways now down to one lane and many of the old A roads blocked to traffic over 7.5 tonnes so they now use the other already congested routes. I wish I could have been a town traffic planner as most of my town would not be the bottleneck that it has become.There is an increase in traffic but with proper sensible management and people in authority creating bottle necks under the "climate change" banner, we will have worse bottle necks and more greenhouse gases caused by the static vehicles inc buses that eventually run out of their precious bus lanes.Let all traffic have free reign on all major routes and the buses will get a better deal too.
  • wagolynn's Avatar
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    The best way to deal with congestion, commuters or otherwise, is to leave it to market forces eventually the congested will find another way. The choices are change jobs, move house, tele working or use public transport, whatever, just avoid the congestion. Building new roads is not a realistic option as new roads in the medium term just create more traffic.
  • smudger's Avatar
    Thing is Wagonlyn, moving house is out, house prices in cities too high!

    Public transport, is just a joke in some places!

    Only practical option,(and this is only in some cases) is working from home. With this new IT world, its becoming easier.

    This problem has always been with us, and I don't see an answer to it, well not in our lifetime anyway;)
  • ficklejade's Avatar
    The best way to deal with congestion, commuters or otherwise, is to leave it to market forces eventually the congested will find another way. The choices are change jobs, move house, tele working or use public transport, whatever, just avoid the congestion. Building new roads is not a realistic option as new roads in the medium term just create more traffic.

    Got to echo Smudger's points here, though in an ideal world would agree with you! However, we have to do much more than simply improve IT connections (frequently dire unless you're in a populated area) but also, for firms in more rural areas, not penalising them for despatching or receiving goods in such areas.

    One of the choices you forgot to mention is that drivers will find as many rat runs as they can to avoid your options so we get even more restrictions!

    I'd like to see much more teleworking for a lot of office conferences - spent four hours doing that this week and saved over £600 in travelling, food and accommodation costs.

    What jobs pay what also needs to be considered. We're all being told to get out and work (and I wish I could find something that would give me a work/life/carer balance as I'm now classed as one of the condemned benefit folks!). But if your circumstances only allow for you to do a few hours per week, job choices are very few and far between and very low paid - I've been offered two jobs and it would cost me more in time and travel than I'd get paid and I can't afford to move, not just for financial reasons, either.
  • Snowball's Avatar
    Isn't the UK population expected to increase to around 70 million by 2050?
    What will the congestion situation be like then?
  • Rolebama's Avatar
    First off, I would say that 1,207 people is not representative of the commuting force.
    Take, for example, the A40. (Because I know it). Over the past years, the roundabouts and traffic lights at Swakeleys, Hillingdon Circus, Polish War Memorial, Target, Greenford and Perivale, have all been made into underpasses and flyovers. This means that the traffic can flow right through to Gypsy Corner. So it is not unusual now for the congestion to stretch right back to Hillingdon on a regular basis. The speed limits have been lowered, and raised again, in an effort to relieve the congestion, and nothing has worked. Removing the roundabouts and traffic lights has only served to allow the traffic to flow too well, creating a nightmare bottleneck.
    As to using alternate routes, or public transport, I used to regularly attend breakdowns on the M40 between Beaconsfield and Denham whilst work was being carried out at Swakeleys and Hillingdon Circus, and it was not unusual for it to take me 4.5 hours to reach the breakdown. (Travelling a distance of around 9 miles.) This went on for a very significant period of time. (I think about 18 months, but cannot be sure now.)
    Just to add to this, I went to Cobhham the other morning. Took me 35mins door-to-door after leaving my house at 6am. Rejoined M25 on return journey at around 6.55am. Arrived home at 10.25.
  • wagolynn's Avatar
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    Thing is Wagonlyn, moving house is out, house prices in cities too high!

    Public transport, is just a joke in some places!

    Only practical option,(and this is only in some cases) is working from home. With this new IT world, its becoming easier.

    This problem has always been with us, and I don't see an answer to it, well not in our lifetime anyway;)
    The fixation that we have in owning houses and the way we live and work are partially accidental but mostly choices we have made as a society. In my opinion, as a society it is evident that we have been driving hard down the wrong road, It does not really matter what we do it is basically the wrong road, until we recognise that the situation will just get worse.
  • smudger's Avatar
    Aye! ficklejade, I am in the same boat, being a carer for my wife, which is a bit difficult at times, as I am disabled my self, with a back injury, and not that mobile?

    Another thing with this commuting lark, is the price of fuel!
    Back in the 80s I used to drive a return trip of 360 miles up the A9, to get home for the weekend.
    It used to cost me around £10 in fuel. These days, I am lucky if I can squeeze 100 miles from the same £10:eek:
  • Trainman's Avatar
    The idea of public transport as a viable alternative is total garbage. Try the Liverpool to Manchester trains from 0600-1000 and again at the evening time. No seats sardine packing in totally inadequate 2 carriage trains. Hilarious!!:D Then what about one man buses stopping at every stop whilst the driver issues a ticket for the people who go in their bags, to get out their handbag, to then rummage in a purse to get the money for the fare. All this could be done before getting on the damn thing. What is more annoying is being stuck behind one picking up one or two people at every stop and no way of getting past. So we have bus lanes and that causes more congestion because half of the usable road space is lost to ghost buses that are only every 20 mins or so. The whole road system is designed to be choked up as many roads have too many restrictions for vehicles to pass along them.This congestion is caused by green issues of getting people out of cars.Thank God I am retired now and don't have to go out in the morning melee.
  • Snowball's Avatar
    Trainman, you forgot to mention the fact that most bus stands have no provision for orderly queuing; neither have the majority of waiting passengers any idea how to form a queue, or any intention of doing so.
    I, too , am retired, and on the very odd occasion I have taken the bus (and thankfully rarely at peak periods), there are times, at peak periods, when those waiting the longest must surely have missed a bus due to others pushing to the front.
    I've noticed that cows going in for milking are better behaved than people getting onto a bus. says a lot for the human race! :(
  • smudger's Avatar
    Yea! and a lot of the buses don't pull into the actual bus stops, which means you cant get passed them:(

    Even if they do, they just pull out without any consideration of any traffic passing on the right hand side, sometimes even without signalling:mad: