[Jeff1545]

Originally Posted by Jeff1545

Just rang a Ford main dealer in Leeds and asked for a speed sensor for my R reg focus zetec 1.8 petrol.

He quoted me £86.05 because it is an ABS sensor also. Can anyone confirm or otherwiswe coz I dont think I have ABS.

Thanks in advance

Rang another dealer and they quoted me £26.60 and stated the other dealer was "an idiot" - not the exact words he used but you get the picture.

He also stated it is a common and well known problem. Picking the part up after work tomorrow. "Sorted".

Thanks to all who have previously detailed the problem.

J

[tombraider]

Have had huge grief with my 2005 1.6 focus, Have owned it for eighteen months and problems started after a couple of months. Every so often it would just cut out when braking or going round corners, Taken to dealership no fault code no fix. Problem seemed worse in summer time most often after or during a/c use.

Next problem huge water ingress in passenger foot well, Pollen filter changed as this is normal cause next heavy down pour another big puddle, Taken back to dealership and after more tests windscreen was found not to be fixed in properly! Replaced windscreen under warrenty no more leaks.

Have a couple of months everything seems okay then bang, Travelling down duel carrigeway when engine starts to kangaroo and then just cuts out cost to edge of road switch off and thankfully it restarts, but ten miles down the road so does the fault find local dealer who checks car over no fault found again even tho it came up engine system failure twice. Couple of days with no fault then it really plays up big time cuts out four times in ten miles take straight back to local dealership where it has been for the last two weeks waiting for a new engine loam to come from the US (aperently a modified version of the standard), Ford uk say it will be here within the next seven to ten days dealership says not until the 29th of this month. At least al this is covered by warrenty including car hire.
I have had two previous focus which have been great but this thing is awful
Couple of friends have same age and engine cars and they have had no problems what so ever, Hoped mine was a one off but after reading this forum it seems not.

[talksr]

Hello, my engine has cut out twice since I have had it. Once at around 70mph, and another at about 15. The first time the MPH gauge was working, the second it was doing the ------.
I have had my car for a while so if I have the same problem as you guys, mine must be a mild case!

Just a query but is there any chance that a focus can have its mileage tampered with? A friend of mine suggested that the reason it keeps coming up with ---- and the speed gauge turning off is because the mileage has been tampered with? I have a 1999 at 72,000 (it was 68,000 when I bought it in Feb07) Just wondering really if its possible so I know if the car has actually done more, it just seems a little old to have such a relatively low reading. :)

[tombraider]

Would think its possible to tamper with the mileage on any car if you really wanted to.
Wouldnt have thought your problem is the same as the one I had, Mine is now sorted it turned out it was the electronic acceltor control. This so I have been informed turns the force that you press the acceltor pedal down into an electronic signal which then puts down the power.
I suspect mine had been faulty from day one as when ever I had the radio on medium wave it crackled and buzzed every time I pressed the accelator.
Since this unit was changed I have had no cut outs and the radio works perfectly.
I said in an early post that a friend of mine who also owned a Focus hadnt had any problems, Well his radio has know started making the same noises as mine used to, Will be intresting to see if his starts cutting out.

[talksr]

Thanks for the reply tombraider :) I was just curious as it seems quite low for the age. When the car starts, it never sounds as good as it will sound after it has been running for 10 minutes. It sounds much more refined and modern after 10 mins running idle. But maybe that's just the automatic choke. I only have the 1.4 CL so its nothing special, but I do enjoy driving it. Very nice comfortable drive, just a shame I can't always tell how fast I am going! I asked ford a while back, and they said it sounded like the speed sensor located in the gearbox, but their pricing (£100 - just to link the car to the ford computer to diagnose) seemed a little on the steep side.
Also just the other week, the E/W drivers side stopped working. It won't go up or down. THey are saying it needs a whole new assembly for the window as they believe it to be the motor but you can't just get a new motor, you have to get a complete assembly.

Apart from this, its doing well. They are not major problems, but I am a student, and anything in the three zeros bracket 000 puts me right off! But thats just cars for you!

have a good weekend:p

[npdavea]

Ford Focus sudden engine stopping

My wifes car, Zetec 1.6, has just developed the same problem. The first time it happened was on a motorway in heavy rain, the second time in heavy rain on a b road, the third time on a wet road and the fourth time, yesterday on a dry road. In each case it restarts after about 15 to 30 mins and the wipers, lights, facia panel, radio all work while waiting but the starter does not respond to the ignition key.
Water ingress and a corroded joint are suspected by the dealer, where it now is. I will mention to him also the Speed sensor switch and the camshaft sensor as commented on by other sufferers.
Meanwhile anyone else suspect that the problem could be to do with water ingress?? If so any ideas where??:confused:

[talksr]

Originally Posted by npdavea

My wifes car, Zetec 1.6, has just developed the same problem. The first time it happened was on a motorway in heavy rain, the second time in heavy rain on a b road, the third time on a wet road and the fourth time, yesterday on a dry road. In each case it restarts after about 15 to 30 mins and the wipers, lights, facia panel, radio all work while waiting but the starter does not respond to the ignition key.
Water ingress and a corroded joint are suspected by the dealer, where it now is. I will mention to him also the Speed sensor switch and the camshaft sensor as commented on by other sufferers.
Meanwhile anyone else suspect that the problem could be to do with water ingress?? If so any ideas where??:confused:

Just a quick note; on the occasions when mine did it, it was always summer and hot. Never ever wet. Did you see the BBC Watchdog report on the focus dash problem?

[npdavea]

Focus engine cut out/instrument panel

Yes I did see the programme but (so far) we dont have dash problems.
However we did have Drivers side E/W problems see recent comment by talksr which were first intermittent and then a permanent problem.
Not wanting to pay for a complete door system replacement we went to the local auto electrical guru who said the motor was stuck and he has fixed it with a push and some lubrication!!
This was last week but I'm sure its not connected to the cutting out problem

[talksr]

Originally Posted by npdavea

Yes I did see the programme but (so far) we dont have dash problems.
However we did have Drivers side E/W problems see recent comment by talksr which were first intermittent and then a permanent problem.
Not wanting to pay for a complete door system replacement we went to the local auto electrical guru who said the motor was stuck and he has fixed it with a push and some lubrication!!
This was last week but I'm sure its not connected to the cutting out problem

That is very interesting about the E/W. Mine still has power going to it, you can tell as the engine works a little harder when you press the up or down button. So maybe mine has got the same problem as yours and just needs someone with some know-how and lubrication solution to fix it again.

RE: Watchdog, like you said, I doubt it is to do with the dash. Someone did say to me it could be to do with the fuel injection or something. And had I let the tank run low. (I had during the 70mph cut out incident), the fuel light was on. Pulled into get petrol, 10 mins later when doing high speeds, it turned off. They said it could have been air in the tank or something like that related to running the tank low.

Could be something like that, does anyone else have any suggestions?

[hilary.j]

focus engine cutout

hi i have an x reg focus 1.8 have recently had engine cutout 3 times i noticed mph was not working is this a senser problem or is it a dashboard problem any suggestions would be helpful

[talksr]

My car is a little older than yours and it was suggested to me that the mph problem was the speed sensor located in the gearbox. I was told it would be about £25 to get a new one and fit myself, when I contacted a family friend who works at ford (discount!) he gave me some ridiculous price somewhere around the £100 mark. So since then I have just put up with it.

Suposedly the area where the sensor is located has a design fault in the sense that water and moisture can easily enter the rim where the sensor is fitted and causes it to malfunction over time. This is all research and stuff I have found on the net.

There was a big thing on BBC watchdog about failing odometers on Focuses however this was more for 03 + focuses I believe and concentrated more on faulty dash units. You said your odometer or MPH is failing not the entire dash which was the main problem reported on Watch Dog.

[hilary.j]

thanks what really worries me is everything cutting out and steering going i narrowly missed a car when it last happened i will contact my garage re sensor.

[tazmania]

cutting out

Originally Posted by hilary.j

thanks what really worries me is everything cutting out and steering going i narrowly missed a car when it last happened i will contact my garage re sensor.

if anyone is still having cutting out problems, the garage can check the cars computer for fault code.

Mine was fixed by having the CMP - Camshaft Positioning Sensor, replaced.


Hope that helps.

tazmania

[shezza36]

Originally Posted by tombraider

Have had huge grief with my 2005 1.6 focus, Have owned it for eighteen months and problems started after a couple of months. Every so often it would just cut out when braking or going round corners, Taken to dealership no fault code no fix. Problem seemed worse in summer time most often after or during a/c use.

Next problem huge water ingress in passenger foot well, Pollen filter changed as this is normal cause next heavy down pour another big puddle, Taken back to dealership and after more tests windscreen was found not to be fixed in properly! Replaced windscreen under warrenty no more leaks.

Have a couple of months everything seems okay then bang, Travelling down duel carrigeway when engine starts to kangaroo and then just cuts out cost to edge of road switch off and thankfully it restarts, but ten miles down the road so does the fault find local dealer who checks car over no fault found again even tho it came up engine system failure twice. Couple of days with no fault then it really plays up big time cuts out four times in ten miles take straight back to local dealership where it has been for the last two weeks waiting for a new engine loam to come from the US (aperently a modified version of the standard), Ford uk say it will be here within the next seven to ten days dealership says not until the 29th of this month. At least al this is covered by warrenty including car hire.
I have had two previous focus which have been great but this thing is awful
Couple of friends have same age and engine cars and they have had no problems what so ever, Hoped mine was a one off but after reading this forum it seems not.

Hi, My ford forcus, 1.8 zetec is doing exactly the same as yours, when slowing down; going round corners it car cuts out, it's been back to ford dealer at least 6 times and no fault found! i've read reports that it could be the crank lead, sensor and told them to check this out. My car is still with them and i am soooo frustrated, thinking of seeking compensation as i paid 1700 for a new gear box and other bits to be repaired! and am not giving up! did you get your problem resolved with the 'loam'?? Any ideas what it could be?

[lets_focus]

Hi shezza36 - I've had very similar problems to yourself and others on here. It turned out to be a very simple problem which {after spending £200+ on irrelevant repairs}, cost me 35p for a roll of insulation tape. I kid you not!

The problem I found was a little group of wires on the front right hand side of the engine block next to one of the oil dipstick pipes {sorry - not a mechanic, so thats the best description I can give}.

The wires were bending over and touching the hot metal of this part of the engine - and eventually, the rubber around the wire had melted and the wire inside was shorting on the engine block and cutting the electrics to the engine itself!

Was very very frustrating - not to mention costly. To have so many repairs done that in fact weren't needed in the first place :mad:

Then - I bought a roll of insulation tape, and bent the wires away from the engine - and its been fine ever since. Try that!

;)

[BobPatMay]

BobPatMay

I have recently bought a 2005 Focus TDCi. After about a month the thing started cutting out in any situation including cruising down the motorway. This can be very dangerous in heavy traffic. The last time the engine would not restart -- even the starter motor would not function. It was towed back to the dealer whre it started immediately when they plugged in the diagnostic equipment. No fault was registered on the engine management system. Now it is running ok but when will it cut out again?
The dealer told me that if no fault is logged on the engine computer then the vehicle cannot be repaired under warranty. They suspect the crank angle sensor and want £95 to replace it.

[amar ali]

ford focus 2007 2.0tdci ghia

Im the second owner of this pos,purchased it in aug 08 from a local used car garage using my credit card
.
I started expreiencing an intermittent loss of power not long after purchasing it, went back to the garage and was advised to take it to a ford dealership as it is still under warranty.

The powerloss has happend on the fast lane of the motorway while travelling at the national speed limit lucky for me and my family there wasnt a hgv behind us, it has happend on the approach to a busy roundabout, its has happend on A roads, B roads, residental areas.

Ford dealership completed a diagnostics, no fault codes found, they couldnt replicate fault either.
The car has been back a least 5 times, on two occasions fault codes were found relating to wiring loom and power steering sensor these were believed to be causing the loss of power and were fixed.

One week later same problem, loss of power without any warning. The engine is still running,electrics are still running no warning lights, revs drop to idle foot to the floor on the accelerator revs still at idle.On every occasion that this happens if the engine it switched of and restarted the problem clears itself.

Contacted the previos owner of the vehicle,he also had the same problems, ford couldnt fix it he part exchanged it for another vehicle.

This car has been to 2 different dealerships and neither have resolved the powerloss issue.the warranty on the car expires on the 28th june 2010.

I have been in touch with ford customer relationship centre they were no help at all, the service manager at the dealership is sypmathetic and provides a courtesy car but cannot resolve the fault.
I am in the process of trying to arrange a meeting with the dealer principle.


Has anybody else had a similar problem, what was the fix?
Any advice/thoughts on how to get this resolved would be greatly appreciated.

[smudger]

The fact that you used your credit card to buy it, means that you have the support of the card company behind you.
Contact them and see if they can help you, as it sounds like they are giving you the run around here, good luck with it;)

[Hometune]

On 2 Focus cars I did, a similar fault as yours was caused by the wiring loom chafing on the gearbox at the back. Both had new looms fitted by Ford. On those cars the pedal position sensor was logged as a fault in the ECU but they were working ok. It did take a while to find this fault.