What on earth is all this for , we pass our tests over 20 years ago , drive millions of accident free miles - then all of a sudden we need another little piece of paper telling us we can drive !! so quickly translated if someone freshly passes there test and has there little cpc thing there a better more experienced driver than me ? surely that isnt right or is it another scam for money ? whats your thoughts guys . oh and does anyone know where we get the cpc's ha ha :mad:
Hgv CPC's !
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14-05-09 08:54CPC Certificate of Professional Competence,all part of a new eu directive to give a level of training etc that will be to the same standard across the eu.
If you have been driving for so long already you should only need a DQC and then the 35 hours of training every 5 years.At least that is how i understand it.
Your best bet will be to phone the dsa to get some proper information though.
As for getting the cpc,i think most driving schools will offer the courses or at the very least be able to point you in the right direction. -
14-05-09 09:25I am not a HGV driver, never have been, but I can see what Stuartex means.
Whoever thought up this C.P.C. idea, and the regulatory body that will operate it, will almost certainly have a pathetic ability, collectively, for assessing driver competence than the equivalent number of any group of average HGV drivers.
In deciding why it is necessary to appoint some faceless group of people to "teach" (for a cost, of course) an army of already experienced and qualified HGV drivers; for C.P.C. just read, "Caper for Pilfering Cash". -
14-05-09 11:35I don't know anything about this scheme apart from what is mentioned above and I know nothing about driving HGVs, but what I do know is that good habits can slip if they go for several decades unchecked.
All drivers have their weaknesses, whereas younger or newer drivers may make mistakes due to inexperience or overconfidence, more experienced drivers may have forgotten basic highway code rules and let important habits (e.g. indicating - I see this on a daily basis!) fall by the wayside.
That's not to say this occurs with all experienced drivers, but I hope it makes sense.
Having said that, it does seem a bit unfair and I can understand the OP's point. I'm just saying what the counterargument probably is though and you can see where it is coming from. -
14-05-09 11:47There was a flip-side to this though, when HGV licenses were introduced, I was given mine because I had over a year's experience of driving before the introduction. (I didn't keep it up as I have not driven an HGV since leaving the Army.) As to the CPC, these have been around for over 10yrs. I was stopped by Police in Sheffield in 1998 and asked for either a tacho card or a CPC when I was towing a loaded car trailer. I had done nothing wrong, they were merely concerned about my driving hours.
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Guestwagolynn14-05-09 11:53
Hey what have you got against jobsworths they keep our country in the mess its in.:D -
16-05-09 09:54What is the point? It's just going to be like the driving licence now.
Eastern europeans are going to come here with another false document and be given jobs over the long suffering British lorry drivers.
I would have thought having a British LGV (HGV) licence is a certificate of competence?.......... It is what it said on my test Certificate "Certificate of passing a test of competence to drive a Goods vehicle"
Yet another piece of red tape that will only hamper Resident British lorry drivers.:mad: -
16-05-09 11:41You mean like, when we vote in an election, we should have another vote at mid-term to ensure we were sure that we had got it right?
Bet that would produce some interesting results!
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01-11-09 22:29well it will make my licence useless as I am not working at the moment due to ill health, but when I can go back to work my licence will be useless as I wont have a cpc and prob no money to pay for one. Shame as its the only qualification I have. Just because I have not driven a hgv for a while doesnt make me a bad driver
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01-11-09 22:51you can spread the training over 5 yrs i think. A lot of employers have schemes running for there employees . Alot of HGV driving instructors have courses and Im sure you can get a grant for this training . I waiting for mine to start oh joy
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02-11-09 21:28The whole thing sounds like just another EU load of krap, to keep the thousands of pen pushers and paper clip counters in a job;)
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04-06-10 18:07stgocat2
I have a hgv class1 licence and I am sick and fed up with all these stiupid ongoing rules and regulation, why dont they leave us alone. . We need to get out of europe and rebuild our country before the completely take over. If they keep on then they can stuff my licence and i will go on the dole just like many others do.
What is happening to our country! -
04-06-10 19:52
They won't care, There are millions of Eastern Europeans with false LGV licenses just waiting for your job and they will work for less. :p -
19-07-11 21:49if you have held your for a number of years cant remember how long but not longer than 10 then you do not have to take or do a cpc until 9 october 2014.
just check and you will see. -
20-07-11 21:23oh it's a money raising scheme, i expect they will bring it in for all commercial vehicles (including all delivery vehicles), meaning if you deliver something or carry something, you will need a cpc
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20-07-11 22:24cpc
wife saids that when using her pushchair to CARRY our son that often she hangs a bag of shoping on it, this bag holding food puts her in the site of goverment legislation of carrying goods.
so she wonders will i have to pay for 35 hours of cpc goodies to prove that she can manouver her push chair in safe and proffessional manner courteous to other pavement dwelling users.
The reason she ask`s is that a grandmother pushing her grandson in such vechicle was fined when her grandson droped a crisp on to the pavement, making her not excempt from such laws.
your ideas are welcome as i have been driving class 1`s for 27 years and did not know that i had been given a document from the dvlc was given to me 27 years ago stating i had more to prove.
I love my country, my goverment, and i have now learnt to confuse my kids to give them a fighting chance in future bureaucracy.
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20-07-11 23:01
Cheer up, You could just buy a £500 polish HGV licence call yourself Marek and you won't need to have the CPC :P -
21-07-11 21:42Speaking of bureaucracy, did anyone else get that Email that was doing the rounds about the amount of words we all use?
It gave a list of some of histories most powerful speeches and quotes, giving something like 1200 words in them.
Then it gave the amount of words that the EEC have in their "sale of cabbages act" 23500 words in it:D -
21-07-11 22:59
I have yet to find a single good thing the common market has done for the UK and that applies for us joining the EU too. -
23-07-11 12:18bureaucracy and theft of tax payers money
The road Agency mishandled the procurement at a potential extra cost to the taxpayer of around £1 billion. It took nine years from the government starting to consider congestion on the M25 to the Agency letting the contract. ...
They could not make there mindup on who to offer the contract to even though had a list of bids, due to them self not having enogth information.
this bill has risen to 660 billion.
thanks alot wish i could spend nine years running hear and there get payed, then decide need 660 % pay rise please, no problem sir i get the hardworking english pepole to put the hands in there pockets, im sure there pay if not will fine them that keep them quiet.
yep i like to moan :mad:
gone of the cpc abit folks
