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Thread: Cycling Fatalities... What should be done about them?

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    In some places, short cycle lanes have been painted on the road, usually blocked out in green, and can be a short as 3 or 4 metres in length. Have never fathomed out how they work in practice.

    In another instance, the council has seen fit, on a 30mph stretch with houses on one side and fields on the other, to reshape the kerbs with staggered bulges, which are filled with tarmac and a plastic bollard with red reflectors erected in the centre of each bulge. naturally these plastic bollards have fallen into disrepair, the council have lost interest in their maintenance, and at least two are now just very low protrusions where they have been broken off.
    So, poor visibility/bad weather conditions leaves drivers strange to the area at risk of hitting these kerbs - motorcyclists being particularly vulnerable.
    This means that the council has two problems: (a) erecting obstructions unnecessarily and (b) not realising that later failure to maintain them will increase the dangers immensely - not remove them.

    We have a lights-controlled T-junction (happens to be at the end of the above-mentioned road). There have been collisions at this junction, but never when the lights have been broken down.
    I think this indicates how pointless all the lane markings are around traffic islands. Someone gets in the wrong lane, and confusion and road rage results.
    Take away these markings and drivers will sort themselves into a natural flow.
    The lanes generate territorial behaviour, in the same way that a driver sees a green light as his God-given right to carry on regardless.
    Without the lights, drivers exercise more caution.

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    See Boris is thinking about stopping cyclists in London from having earphones.

    Agree about over-complicated lanes and junctions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ficklejade View Post
    See Boris is thinking about stopping cyclists in London from having earphones.
    Truth is, they should not be wearing them when cycling on any roads.
    BBC News says that lots of drivers have been caught in the East Midlands for using their mobiles whilst driving. So the police are watching - no problems with that. So why don't the police catch cyclists wearing ear phones? They are even more easily spotted, so is it because prosecution is very difficult/impossible(?) where cyclists are concerned?

    Agree about over-complicated lanes and junctions!
    I think most drivers have recognised this over-complication, FJ. trouble is, the Jobsworths are so wrapped up in their Big Brother paintwork that they cannot see/are incapable of seeing a sensible approach.
    And the more complicate they make the roads, the more chances of drivers being picked up for traffic violations!

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    There is new technology out now which means that the police cant see if a cyclist is wearing headphones, the speakers are mounted inside the cycle crash helmet, so cant be seen from the outside?

    They are built into the strap that covers the ears, they are aslo fitted inside the crash helmets of motor cyclists, who have them two way communicators plugged in, so the rider can communicate to the pillion passenger.

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    How many cyclists these days do not show lights at night. The police should stop them for it, If they can see them.

    How many cyclists give hand signals? The police should pull them up for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smudger View Post
    There is new technology out now which means that the police cant see if a cyclist is wearing headphones, the speakers are mounted inside the cycle crash helmet, so cant be seen from the outside?

    They are built into the strap that covers the ears, they are aslo fitted inside the crash helmets of motor cyclists, who have them two way communicators plugged in, so the rider can communicate to the pillion passenger.
    This isn't technological progress, smudger - it's people in the business world seeing the chance to make money.

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    Thinking in the way of the Govts over the last 50yrs, every time it was decided that something was bad for us, (or cost NHS money), they have banned it. So why not just toss a coin. Heads; we ban cycling, or Tails; we ban cars, lorries etc and have everyone on cycles. This could either solve the unemployment problem at a stroke. Think how many delivery cycles Tesco would need to keep their supermarkets stocked. Or if it went the other way, how many people would need to sit Driving Tests and buy cars. That would solve the recession problem they keep harping on about. Simples!

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    That one made me laugh, Rolebama. I can visualize a Tesco Direct delivery guy struggling along with a refrigerator strapped to his back.

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    It appears that we all agree that cyclists can be their own worst enemies.

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    Best not generalise! There are bad cyclists and good cyclists, bad drivers and good drivers - surely, it's all about common sense and sensible driving/riding?

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