[Snowball]

For years our neighbour has dabbled in cars, and sometimes things have looked dodgy. They have one associate who is a taxi driver - that company being a small one with several addresses, and probably home addresses of self-employed drivers linked to the Company.
Some time ago, out of curiosity, I checked one of the cars that came to their house, and found that it had an expired MoT. Yesterday a car showing itself to be a taxi turned up, and I checked its status. Taxed until Nov 2019, but MoT expired 29 June 2018. Doesn't sound feasible - MoT expired before renewal of the current road fund licence! Although it is a gov.uk website, the records must surely be inaccurate. If this is the case, isn't there a risk of someone going on the website to check a vehicle, and reporting a vehicle that has been erroneously sound to have its MoT expired, resulting in unnecessary stirring of the proverbial?

[Hometune]

If its a taxi then it should be reported to the licensing department at the council who can revoke the licence. The council testing department tests taxis, not ordinary MOT garages.
Passengers are being put at risk if this does indeed carry fares.

[Trainman]

It could still have remaining tax as the Tax and MOT don't necessarily go together. You can report it on the Gov website yourself as it will most likely be uninsured. Check that on askmid ownvehicle.askmid.com

[Trainman]

Check the insurance on askMID. Not MOT = Not insured

[Trainman]

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[Snowball]

I think you've missed the point, Trainman. The MoT supposedly expired 29 June 2018, but the vehicle is taxed until November 2019. You cannot tax a vehicle more than 12 months ahead, so the DVLA dates do not collectively make sense.
Taxi or not, with inaccuracies of this nature I would not risk embarrassing myself by reporting a situation that cannot be correct. Also, if the DVLA can make mistakes like that, unless I was personally involved, I would not use the DVLA data to report any failure to tax or Mot a vehicle.

[Beelzebub]

Snowball, maybe I'm being thick but I'm not following you.

The car is taxed until Nov 19, so the tax must have been renewed in Nov 2018 (12 months) or May 2019 (6 months), at which points it would have had a valid MOT. The MOT has subsequently expired, but that doesn't affect the tax. What am I missing?

[Beelzebub]

Originally Posted by Trainman;n195041

Check the insurance on askMID. Not MOT = Not insured

No MOT may mean the insurer can refuse to pay for damage to the insured vehicle, but he must still meet 3rd party claims. So the car is still insured so far as the law is concerned.

[Snowball]

Originally Posted by Beelzebub;n195142

Snowball, maybe I'm being thick but I'm not following you.

The car is taxed until Nov 19, so the tax must have been renewed in Nov 2018 (12 months) or May 2019 (6 months), at which points it would have had a valid MOT. The MOT has subsequently expired, but that doesn't affect the tax. What am I missing?

The MoT expired (supposedly) on 29 June 2018 so, if this is correct, the car could not be taxed until Nov 2019 since this is about 16 months after the MoT had expired.
Either the MoT expiry date has to be wrong, or the DVLA have incorrectly recorded the vehicle as being taxed.

[Beelzebub]

Originally Posted by Snowball;n195148

The MoT expired (supposedly) on 29 June 2018 so, if this is correct, the car could not be taxed until Nov 2019 since this is about 16 months after the MoT had expired.
Either the MoT expiry date has to be wrong, or the DVLA have incorrectly recorded the vehicle as being taxed.

Yes, I was being thick - misread the MOT date!

[Snowball]

Not surprising, Beelzebub. I had to look at it a couple of times before I twigged the discrepancy between the two dates. I makes me wonder how many owners may be driving around blissfully unaware of errors in the DVLA records that could place them in an awkward situation in the event of a copper finding a reason to check them.

[Motman]

Might just be a glitch on the site. Was it this site? https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk...334.1521305792

[Snowball]

No, it was www.Check the MOT status of a vehicle-GOV.UK. I would have thought the two websites to be commonly linked to the same information records. But, hey, anything is possible where government departments are concerned!!! Can't check the vehicle against this website, because I did not keep the details of he reg no.

[Motman]

I can only assume the site you checked was faulty - you simply wouldn’t be able to tax a vehicle without an mot. You need the mot to at least be valid on the first day of the first month that the vehicle is taxed from.

One other possibility is that yes, taxis need mot's to comply with the licensing laws but if it was under three years old, you wouldn’t need it to be mot'd to tax it online as it will just show up as, perhaps, 'Ford Mondeo'.

[dacouch]

a) The previous posters claiming that lack of MOT means no Insurance is BS, in addition an Insurer cannot refuse to pay for own damages just due to lack of an MOT
b) The reason the Taxi does not show as having an MOT is possibly due to most local authorities running their own schemes for Taxis requiring an extended type of MOT check every six months

[Snowball]

The 'taxi' in question is actually a private hire vehicle - would not that be subject to normal MoT provcedure and show on the gov. website?

[Motman]

Originally Posted by Snowball;n195161

The 'taxi' in question is actually a private hire vehicle - would not that be subject to normal MoT provcedure and show on the gov. website?

What actual make/model was it? Do you know how old it was?

[wagolynn]

Originally Posted by Snowball;n195161

The 'taxi' in question is actually a private hire vehicle - would not that be subject to normal MoT provcedure and show on the gov. website?

In this area Mini Cabs have to pass the councils version of MOT at a council workshop.If they do not or are failed they cannot have a licence to trade.
I think this came about because drivers were buying bangers, and getting them MOT'd at a friends garage, some really did look like death traps.

[Snowball]

It was a vauxhall estate with a '14' plate, but can't remember the actual reg no.

[Motman]

Ah well, got to be a glitch on the site you went on.