When I bought my first brand new car in 2005, it was on special offer. The price drop meant I could buy new instead of nearly new. The car was a 7-seater with no spare wheel; just the compressor and a tin of gunge.
After buying the car, I came to realise that there is no substitute for a full sized spare, so I bought a new wheel and carried it in the luggage compartment.
By the time the car was 4 years old, I had become fed up with this spare always causing problems due to restricted boot space.
So, towards the end of last year, when some good deals were on offer, I ordered another new car; same make and model but a 5-seater with a full sized, properly stowed spare wheel. Apparently, a 5-seater is only put on the production line to order, and I got the car for the start of the 09-plate.
The 5-seater variant cost me an extra £195, but I got all the discounts etc, that would have come with a 7-seater. Also, the spare is an alloy wheel, same as the ones already on the car.
Although my previous car was everything I wished of it, I would not have bought the same car again if it had not had the spare wheel option. I learned the hard way; cars should not be allowed into production without a full sized spare wheel.
With such cars, anything other than a simple puncture will render it stranded until assistance can be obtained, and there is a multitude of situations where the driver/vehicle could be placed in a higher security/safety risk than having a spare readily available.
The EU vehicle regulatory bodies have been very short-sighted in this respect.
Yea! we had to get the Renault Grand Scenic we ordered from the Mobility Scheme altered to hold the spare wheel, (different shape petrol tank) as they are not keen on leasing cars to disabled folk without one.
It was a seven seater as well, we got the smaller Modus this time, in a bid to get more mileage.
What a mistake that was, as we are getting 36 MPG with its 1.2Ltr engine which they said could give 55 MPG??
Ouch, that sounds painful.
Originally Posted by smudger879n
Either the engine is much too small or you are doing something to make it use a lot of fuel. E.g. Tyre pressure, windows open, roof rack, all stop start, diving boots.
Smudger, pure curiousity, but are you sure it's a 1.2litre? That seems a very small engine for a seven seater, and I would imagine it would be working quite hard, which 'coulc' explain poor fuel consumption. I can't find a 1.2 Grand Scenic on Renault's website.
(Or am I misreading your post?)
Hi, Smudger. I tend to feel the same as Rolebama; a 1.2 litre engine does sound tiny for a 7-seater vehicle.
My VW Touran 1.9 TDI returns not much less than that with a 1,430 kg caravan in tow. Solo, I get around 45 - 50 mpg depending on traffic conditions, and have managed 56 mpg.
Something doesn't gel somewhere.
Ah! I seem to have worded it all wrong, its the new Modus which has the 1.2 Ltr engine, and is only a 4 seater.
It was the Renault G/Scenic that was the 7 seater, and it had a 1.6 Ltr engine.
Its the new Modus that is giving us the really poor mileage? Sorry if I confused you all
I found the same problem on my new Peugeot Bipper Tepee
I just bought a new Peugeot Bipper Tepee Outdoor 1.4 HDi 70, as rare as hens teeth, after sending me my prefered silver one it had wrong engine, Peuget Uk found the last one but in metalic red so I accepted as done deal with £3,144 discount, dealer had to transport from Inverness to Blackburn, first try turned back at Perth due to snow, I paid £42.12 extra for a bare rim but the winch type storeage fitting is going to cost another £240 (does not include jack toolkit), when I collected it there was a small mark on front bumper but said could not do anything but full refund, I did not want that so squeezed a new tyre fitted free on spare, 2 days later I found a small square cover missing off rear bumper toe eye hole, cost £8 as no way was I going 230 miles back to argue for one.
Manual says once repaired with goo you can travel up to 120 miles then you must replace tyre, also the goo cartridge has a use by date, talk about a throw away society, if the hole is larger than a nail I am told the goo don't work so you need a tyre company to come out to fit new tyre, I think it's worth spending about £125 for a spare wheel, jack and wheelbrace, as for the further £240 for the winch fitting I am not sure yet.
The silly compressor comes with a Peugeot plug to fit 12v accessory socket that nothing else uses not a cigarette lighter socket which is not even fitted same as ashtray tub which differs on all models, plug is there to fit cigarette lighter socket but dealer can't find any parts so can't charge mobile or power sat nav, really bad design errors.
Last edited by Contax; 24-03-11 at 17:38.