Vauxhall Astra, Cutting out
I have a 2002 Vauxhall Astra 1.6 16v SXI, and I have been experiencing a complete power loss.
It started a few months back when I was pulling off of the motorway it stuttered and then cut out. No lights came on and after about 30 secs and some revving the engine started again. It did this again about 2 weeks later, whilst slowing down after driving at 60mph. I took the car to a local garage who ran full diagnostics, but nothing showed. They then had the car in all day and found no problems with it. The car has been fine for about 6 weeks, then on Sunday when slowing down to pull off of the motorway the engine cut out again, twice. As before it started about 30 secs later with a bit of revving.
I have been fortunate that each time I have been able to pull over, but I am really worried that next time I might not be able to pull over as easily. I love the car, and as I am pregnant with our 1st would love to keep it as our family car, But if this problem persisted we will have to look at getting rid of it, as I am not confident driving it. I have noticed that other people have had this problem and I was wondering if anyone has found a solution yet, as I am reluctant to take it back to the garage knowing that they found nothing last time, and if I take it the Vauxhall I am concerned that they will charge me a fortune in labour and still not be able to fix the problem. Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks in advance, Debbie
This maybe a fault with the EGR valve, take it to a garage and get them to remove and inpect it.
How did you manage to "rev" it, if the engine wouldn't start?
Originally Posted by Jonesdeb
If I were you, I'd have a look on the very useful "Vauxhall Owners Network", sorry, don't have the URL, but it should be easy to search for - full of useful tips, and I suspect that you'll find a common thread running through your problem.
vauxhall astra WARNING!!!!
this is just a warning to all vauxhall astra owners, particularly those who own an automatic. I too was having problems with the car cutting out after coming off the motorway when slowing down, basicallly the car would cut out and all engine management lights came on. Today as i was slowing down to stop at a red light my car cut out as i was doing 10mph and basically rendered my breaks useless. i went into the back of a bus and my three children were with me at the time, my youngest being 3 months old. I had to go to hopsital with my four year old in an ambulance who had hurt her neck. To top it off i am being charged with careless driving because there was no fault with the breaks themselves. My husband had put the car into a vauxhall garage before this happened and no faults were found. Please all of you who are having this problem make sure you are not fobbed off each time as there is a serious problem with these cars and its about time they sorted it out before someone gets seriously hurt.
Last edited by amaarahali28; 19-04-08 at 10:39.
Originally Posted by amaarahali28
You should be aware that if your engine stops while you are moving you DO NOT loose your BRAKES; what you loose is servo assistance. This means your BRAKES still work but you have to press the pedal much, much harder -like in the bad old days before servos existed;-) Same sort of thing happens to the power assisted steering, and it is nothing specific to car with auto boxes!
This might well explain why you are being reported for due care, because despite what you report there is, in fact, nothing wrong with your BRAKES.
Originally Posted by amaarahali28
I have also answered this on another thread -
When you engine stops you DO NOT loose your BRAKES, all you loose is servo assist, so you have to press the pedal much, much harder - this is probably why you are being charged - there is nothing wrong with the brakes! This
also applies to power steering assistance.
NB This is not specific to cars with auto boxes!!
I would have expected enough residual vacuum to stop the car, maybe another fault somewhere, leaking servo hose perhaps?
My foot was to the floor and i can assure you the breaks didn't work. Before this happened i felt the car pulling back when i was accelerating on the motorway. When i came off and passed two roundabouts i slowed down at the red light where the accident happened. Now the lights are those which the look like they are suspended in mid air so that vehicles approaching can see them if a bus or larger vehicle is blocking the view of traffic lights positioned at the side of the road. Also it would have been hard to miss a huge bus at a standstill!! I got the same reply from the policeman investigating the accident who assumed i had been speeding and failed to slow down in time. If he'd bothered to check the road he would have noticed there were no skidmarks which would have been there if i'd slammed on the breaks. The worksvan behind me also would have noticed my breaks lights did not come on either but they took no statements from any witnesses. It was as if my car was being propelled forward before it cut out thats the best i can describe it. When it happened i thought it was because it had cut out, however, on two other occassions the car cut out i have been able to stop. I am just waiting on a report from Vauxhall who are checking the car over. I am in no way an expert in cars and never said it was because the car was an automatic. I was just appealing to those who had the same model of car as my own. The fact that two people have pointed out that my breaks would still work when the engine has cut out explains why the police have charged me. This makes me more determined to find out why the car carried on forward. At the time the only thing going through my head was the breaks werent working and i panicked. It wasn't until after the accident i was able to think clearly about what really happened. I couldn't figure out why the car didn't stop because when the cars cut out i have had time to stop hit my hazard button to warn other drivers. This time i didn't have a chance. If you have any suggestions to what may have caused this please please help. Its not the fact that i have been charged that im worried about its the safety of my children which matters the most. If Vauxhall are unable to find out what caused this i wont be able to drive the car again (Its an astra envoy automatic 2002) which is ashame as my husband only bought me it a month and a half ago and its a nice car apart from it misfiring a million times or more. I had given it to vauxhall a week before who checked everything including the EGR valve and changed the gearbox oil, fuel treatment, the works. At least my kids and i are safe it could have been much worse..
Also i have a zafira and a vectra and cutting out is commonplace with vauxhall vehicles only last month the zafira cut out on a roundabout. I was lucky it wasn't busy and my vectra has cut out on the motorway and going around a corner.
Last edited by amaarahali28; 21-04-08 at 13:16.
It's probably not the EGR - do a search on the very useful "Vauxhall Owners Network" where I'm sure you'll find an excellent explanation for the engine cut from a very experienced and helpful member.
And, as the less than subtle hint obviously didn't work, and you are going to have to do some careful explaining to some people, it's BRAKES not breaks.
I cannot imagine a set of circumstances where BRAKES would fail immediately prior to a collision and then be working when a police examiner tested them!
Furthermore, it is just NOT possible for brakes to totally fail on a modern car (well, at least 20 years old, if you call that modern), because they have dual-circuits which prevent that.
A girl racer i am not and my kids safety always comes first!! Its amazing how people like to kick you when you are already down. The question was what could cause a loss of BRAKE power other than your brakes being completely knackered!!
I only looked on this sight cause my original problem was that the car was misfiring all the time and cutting out. Vauxhall couldn't find anything and i was to take it back after i'd done 1000 miles. Loads of people had the same problem so i wrongly assumed that your breaks didn't work when the engine cut out. So now i need to get the Vauxhall garage to take a look at the car to see what has happened. Thank god it was only the bonnet which was damaged. The mechanic at the compound said it wasn't as bad as it looked!! So i apologise to you all again for jumping to conclusions but i don't need a jury for a road traffic offence thank you very much!!
Last edited by amaarahali28; 23-04-08 at 11:44.