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Thread: info/answer req'd pls re CPC and driving 7.5 tonner.

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    Default info/answer req'd pls re CPC and driving 7.5 tonner.

    An exhibition stand contractor I use is struggling to get an answer as to whether or not their stand builders (carpenters, labourers and decorators) need to do the CPC training and test? They prepare/pre-build the stands in their factory, load onto truck with tools etc, travel to site all over the UK and mainland Europe ; unload, build the stand, including the driver building the stand, drive back to the factory, then do the reverse a few days later after the trade show has finished. The .GOV site gives an example of self employed bricklayers and says they do not need CPC if they load their truck with bricks and tools, drive to site , build and return. My stand builders are doing a very similar thing, except they build the stands inside an exhibition hall. Any advice would be much appreciated. Regards, Democratdriver.

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    Google it. Look at the HGV Training Centre web site.

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    I posted your question on a truck driver's forum and this was the answer I recieced from someone who has an excellent reputation for his espertise:

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    I assume this is a company that does show stands, if that's correct then I believe that generally the stands belong to the company that builds them rather than the company that's exhibiting on the stand in which case I would say the driver is exempt on the grounds that he's carrying materials for his/her trade and driving is not the drivers main activity.


    http://www.trucknetuk.com/phpBB/view...91984#p1791984

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    Many thanks Dennis W. I did take a look at the HGV Training web site as suggested, but they want to sell training courses, so I'm not sure they will readily offer impartial advice on the rules? I waited on the phone for an hour to speak to someone on the DVSA offices, to be told that they are not sure because the new rulings were introduced by the EU. So I asked if EU Police were going to be travelling the roads in the UK to enforce this? She then said try VOSA who will be doing the roadside spot checks and in the end got an answer that my contractor friends "probably" don't need to do the CPC, but they are still not 100% sure. Hey Ho. thanks anyway. regards, Democratdriver.

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    Hello Santa, Many thanks for this, very useful. I eventualy got through on the phone to VOSA who will be doing the roadside spot-checks for CPC and they agreed that my contractor friends should not need to do the CPC, although they are not 100% sure. Thanks again. Regards, Democratdriver

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    Surely, It is only the DRIVERS who need this?

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    Yes Dennis - From next month, all LGV drivers will have to carry a card to show that they have completed 35 hours of so called training. The Driver's CPC (Certificate of Professional Competence) should not be confused with the Transport managers CPC, which is a totally different thing.

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    Back in the days when I owned a 7.5 ton lorry, I could drive it with my car license, and I used to garage it along with my mates storage facility, where he kept his truck.I also used his Operators License, and had it serviced at the some place he used.

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    Still could Smudger - you should have "Grandfather rights" - meaning because you passed your test prior to January 1997 you retained your Cat C1. You would still need a Driver's CPC though.

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    Default Democratdriver. 7.5 tonner CPC requirement?

    Thanks for your interest peeps. From the overall opinions and advice we have recently picked-up (including yours) and without spending mucho wonga with specialist transport solicitors we have decided that the stand builders are not just dedicated drivers, but stand builders. They nearly all take turns in driving 7.5 tonners when needed and will be part of a crew on site building (or pulling down) the stand, so are excluded from the CPC requirement. Another pal of mine who takes interest in legal matters mentioned that ultimately this is all about "interpretation" of the rules/laws and the people who issue the rules can't show every possible example of who would be included and who is excluded, so it would all come down to a judge's interpretation of the law on the day. Let's hope it doesn't come to that and go wrong. Thanks again, Regards, Democratdriver.

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