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Thread: Has anyone experienced car cloning?

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    Unhappy Car Cloning

    I think my wife has been the victim of this crime. Since 2003 she has owned a Nissan Micra, giving it to my son in November 2007.
    My son went to part exchange the car and the garage ran an HPI check on it. The reply was that "the car was reported stolen and written off on Sept 17th 2007, and is a Category A write off".
    However, the car has never been stolen whilst in her or my son's possession, they did not report it stolen, and have been driving it every day.
    My question is: what can now be done? I ran my own HPI check, with the same result.
    Is it worth going to the police or should I contact DVLA direct?

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    Welcome to the site Cwompo, it could be that the car has been "cloned" what they do is steal another one, same colour/model, (or botch repair one) then use your number plate to register it.

    If you do contact the DVLA, chances are they will send plod round, to take the car away, until you can prove that your one is in fact the original/legal one?
    Good luck with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cwompo View Post
    I think my wife has been the victim of this crime. Since 2003 she has owned a Nissan Micra, giving it to my son in November 2007.
    My son went to part exchange the car and the garage ran an HPI check on it. The reply was that "the car was reported stolen and written off on Sept 17th 2007, and is a Category A write off".
    However, the car has never been stolen whilst in her or my son's possession, they did not report it stolen, and have been driving it every day.
    My question is: what can now be done? I ran my own HPI check, with the same result.
    Is it worth going to the police or should I contact DVLA direct?
    Contact the insurers of the car for the period it was suppose to have been written off, they should have no record of it being written off of course. If they are feelling helpful they should be able to advise on how to set the record straight, failing that try citizen’s advice.

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    Even some cars we see on second hand dealers forecourts could be cloned, or cut and shut jobs?

    So the £3 they charge for that Text Check could save you a lot of trouble

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    It is always worth checking as much as possible before handing over cash.

    Carefully check chassis plate numbers and where the Chassis number is stamped into the body itself.

    • Never buy a car at the side of the road or a 'meet' location.
    • Ask to see the log book and get the previous owners details and contact them - Most people are quite happy to help.
    • If anything seems suspicious - walk away.

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    Default Cloning

    Car cloning is a far bigger problem than many people are aware, this has been made a more serious problem due to over 100,000 V5 registration documents being stolen from DVLA. I think a lot of people are not aware of the risks of buying a cloned car, the reality is that if you do, you could end up with no car and loosing your money! To avoid the risk there are a few simple steps to follow which will help when buying your new car;
    1) Meet the person at the address the vehicle is registered to.
    2) Take your reg doc and compare the two, any doubts ring DVLA
    3) check the chassis number(normally in front screen and in engine bay, make sure they match registration Document.
    4) Make sure the chassis numbers do not look like they have been tampered with-any doubts walk away
    5) Any payment that you make should be into an account owned by the seller of the vehicle and the person registered on the registration document.
    6) If the car is too cheap, there is normally a good reason.

    You can still buy a cloned car from a forecourt, as anyone is at risk of making the mistake, however if you do by through a reputable dealer you have a lot more protection under law, and the car would in theory go back to the dealer and you would get a refund.

    Hope this helps.

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    I recieved a parking ticket for £130 because my car was parked in a disabled parking space, in Westminster London,
    I tried telling Westminster council i live 180 miles away and this was not me, after a long heated discusion it was suggested my car had been cloned and i was advised i could view the offending car in their website, Th car was similar to mine but a different model "but did have my plates. I had to object against the fine and send photos of my car.

    DVLA were not interested and said the only way i could infirm them would be in writing, I am still awaiting a reply form them,

    My local police station did get back to me saying they could not do anything as its not in their area, but would pass it on.

    I am still waiting an answer form Westminster Council with a discision about the fine, and a reply from DVLA

    I would love to know why and how these people choose and find reg nubers to use, and why us unfortunate, legal drivers have to do all the leg work in proving out innocence.

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    The authorities including the insurance companies really need to have a big campaign to track these illegal vehicles down because more than likely they will not have insurance. The Home office needs to set up a national specialist unit to catch these vehicles.

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    I believe that the most common reason for cloning is to avoid the Conjestion Charges. If you ever have a number plate stolen then report it immediately.

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    Quote......"The Home office needs to set up a national specialist unit to catch these vehicles."

    Aye! a good idea in theory, but you can imagine the cost of all this, they would set up committees to report to other committees, and employ thousands of pen pushers, the whole thing would spiral out of control, passing the costs onto the already over taxed motorists

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